I’m guessing you’re talking about Thaksin Shinawatra there, and no there hasn’t been any news of him. He probably won’t go to jail, but for what he’s done he really deserves to.

Or do you mean someone else when you say Frank, cause I really can’t think who you’d mean…

And I know that you rate Jonas, that’s another reason why I think he’s a good buy this summer, especially at the price we got him for.

I’m not saying I endorse Barton’s actions, my main argument is that he was a good player while at Man City. You were the one who brought Barton into this in the first place, saying he was “bog-standard”, I was just trying to prove that he isn’t bog-standard.

I can’t give up my season ticket, seeing as I live in Bangkok, but I do get to watch all the matches on TV

And yes this has been a good debate, it would be more enjoyable if you stopped typing in caps

How was I being an “internet tough guy”, I didn’t threaten you, I just insulted you, because I thought what you’d said was pretty stupid, saying Shearer’s purchase was a bargain, when at the time it was a transfer record. I’ll apologise, as you’ve shown what you meant by “bargain”, and I’ll agree with you there, for what Shearer gave us, 15 million pounds was definitely a bargain.

Joey Barton was a driving force in YOUR midfield at the time, proven by the fact that he was top scorer. Just cause he didn’t score many doesn’t detract from that, the whole team didn’t score many, so he was obviously one of the best players in your team.

Also I see you’ve stopped arguing with my points about Jo and Jonas, is that a bit of admittance showing itself?

How can you say that Barton wasn’t the driving force in City’s midfield? He was your top scorer in the 2006/07 season, and he’s not even a striker for god’s sake, it’s not often you see that happening (bar Cristiano Ronaldo). He was also high in the ranks for assists at Man City, proving that he was an important player while he was there. You just won’t accept that and make up rubbish, cause you have no idea what you’re talking about and are just influenced by the media.

And yet again, I’m not having a go at City’s new spending power as displayed by their signing of Jo, I was just saying it may be unfounded to vote for him as the best summer signing because he hasn’t proved that he’s worth 18 million quid yet, and that’s a hefty price-tag to live up to. I know that people can vote for who they like, but most people tend to vote for whoever their club has signed.

I admit, I voted for Jonas, but then look at the transfer itself. He bought out the remainder of his contract, Newcastle reimburse that money to him, there’s a signing fee, and then we’ve got ourselves a 24 (well, it’s his 25th birthday today) year-old Argentinian international. Surely that’s a great signing, mainly due to the value for money factor.

If City had managed to get Jo for 10 million or less, I would’ve thought “Hey, that’s a pretty good deal for such a promising player” but I just think that 18 million is paying slightly over the odds. But as I’ve said before, this is all based on the fact that he hasn’t proven himself yet. If he does manage to prove himself in the Premier League this coming season, then I’ll admit that I was wrong to have doubts, but at the moment nothing has been done to dispel my doubts.

I wasn’t having a go at City, I was just questioning people who have voted for Jo as the best summer signing, partly as he hasn’t even played yet, and partly as he cost so much. Yes I know the fee was officially “undisclosed” but on a few sites they’ve said the price has been around 18 million, or they said it was a new record transfer fee for the club, so I don’t think I will scrub that comment.

And about your comments on Joey Barton, he wasn’t on his way to jail when we bought him, was he. And he’s not exactly bog standard, he used to be the driving force in City’s midfield, they only sold him cause of the fight with Dabo.

So why don’t you keep Newcastle out of your debate when this was never about clubs, it was about the people they’re signing, I just said that voting for Jo as the best summer signing is a bit premature if you’re basing it on performances, and certainly a bit off if you’re basing your vote on value for money.

What’s this I hear? Man City have paid 18 million pounds for Jo, who scored a few goals in the Russian league, and as far as I know, isn’t exactly a feature in the Brazilian national squad…